On the burner — some projects closer than others. It’s a never-ending process, the constant evolution of my craft.

The shop has been touch and go. Eventually it’ll be up and stay up. It took a minute to figure out where that kind of merch actually fits into the bigger picture, and how I want to sell it without it feeling forced or hollow. For now, I’ve been doing short sticker-bomb runs with the Strum Life logo — getting the name out on the streets the old-school way.

Soon, I’ll be more aggressive — both on the ground and online — about pushing the brand forward.

At the same time, I’ve been deep in recording future releases and writing a lot. A lot. About the stretch of time when life went off the rails with drugs and alcohol, and how it slowly found its way to where it is now. That space in between mattered more than I realized.

I’ve also been paying attention — watching creators who didn’t just fix their lives, but learned how to translate their scars into something real, something they could stand behind and build from.

So sit tight.
Keep checking back.

It’s going to get good.

That's a powerful story and a strong message for your blog. It's a very relatable topic for anyone pursuing a creative passion.

Here is a draft of a blog post based on your thoughts, crafted with a thoughtful, motivational tone that focuses on the lesson learned:

Sometimes, the loudest critics are the ones struggling most with their own silenced dreams. I was reminded of this recently while digging through old press for a release I poured my soul into back in 2004.

I remember giving a demo disk of that music—my best work at the time—to a family member. I won't name him, but his reaction was a straight-up tear-down. His verdict? It was "boring." At the time, that kind of rejection from someone close to you stings deep, questioning every bit of time and passion you invested.

Fast forward all these years, and the contrast is glaring. Those initial professional press reviews I found were actually awesome, praising the album's uniqueness and depth. Meanwhile, the critic who dismissed it has done virtually nothing with his own life. I learned he once had big plans but walked away from them because of money pressure from a greedy, financially driven family member.

My point is simple, and it's a lesson learned the hard way: When someone tries to make you feel less than—especially when you are chasing something you want more than anything—run from those people.

They aren't motivated by love or constructive criticism; they are motivated by their own regret. It’s clear now that he was tearing me down only to avoid feeling bad about selling his own dreams short.

True friends and supportive family encourage your ambition, even if they don't fully understand your "Grunge Jazz." The people who weaponize criticism against your passion are not your people. Protect your art, protect your drive, and keep making the music you believe in, no matter what they call it.

Some People Say They’re Musicians. I Had to Bleed for It.

Some people say they’re musicians.

They picked up a guitar last summer. Took a few lessons. Learned a few chords. Posted a video of themselves strumming in good lighting. Called it passion.

Cool.

But for me? Music wasn’t a cute phase. It wasn’t a background prop for my social feed. It wasn’t something I did after my real job.

Music was the only thing that kept me breathing.

When everything else felt like hell, I had six strings and a busted amp that gave me more therapy than any human ever did.

I wasn’t told I had talent. I wasn’t cheered on. I was told to be quiet. Told I wasn’t good. Told to do something else. Told my dreams were selfish. Told to grow up.

But I kept playing. In garages, alleyways, halfway houses, churches, street corners.

I kept playing when I couldn’t afford new strings. I kept playing when nobody listened. I kept playing when my own blood didn’t believe in me.

So yeah—when someone says they’re a musician, and I see no scars, no sweat, no obsession, no heartbreak in the music… it hits me.

Not because I think I’m better. But because I had to bleed for this. I had to survive for this. I am this.

This isn’t ego. This is identity.

Some people say they’re musicians.

I had to be one. Or I wouldn't have made it out alive.

The Songs That Shaped Me: A Guitarist's Deep Dive

These songs, albums, and musical moments didn’t just inspire me — they shaped my entire journey. Some made me want to play guitar, some made me see music differently, and some hit me so hard I chased them like a fix I couldn’t get enough of. No particular order, just pure influence.

John Coltrane – "Countdown" and Giant Steps

Year: 1993
Location: Cabot College, Hayward, CA

Frank Samares, our jazz improv instructor and an absolute beast of a piano player, introduced us to the wild world of John Coltrane. He handed us note-for-note transcriptions of Giant Steps and told us to "read along." We couldn’t flip the pages fast enough. This wasn’t your typical jazz — it was almost alien. That day was my brutal introduction to Coltrane changes. I’ll cover the backstory of those changes in another blog. 

Miles Davis – Kind of Blue

In 1997, I stumbled across Miles Davis in my kid’s mom’s record collection. The opening note took me on a journey that nothing else could replicate. Even if jazz isn’t your thing, this album is a must-listen for anyone who loves music.

Metallica – "One"

Back in 1988 (I think), at age 12, I had never heard anything like Metallica’s One. The machine gun guitars blew my mind. As I dove deeper into the band, I discovered the legend of Cliff Burton. I wrote about him in another post, and his impact still resonates.

Led Zeppelin – "Black Dog"

March 10th, 1989. I pulled Led Zeppelin IV out of my friend’s parents’ tape collection and that was it. Led Zeppelin’s Black Dog gave me "that feeling." From that day forward, I wanted to play guitar. Jimmy Page did something no one else could do for me.

The Doors – "Light My Fire"

I probably almost wore out my dad’s Doors Greatest Hits record. I obsessively listened to The Doors in high school, especially "Light My Fire." I love hearing about their creative process and influences — which, funny enough, line up with mine these days.

Jimi Hendrix – Are You Experienced

My parents hated Jimi Hendrix. They thought he was "too out there." I first saw him on MTV, lighting his guitar on fire. I was 11, it was life-changing. Hendrix's impact on me is complicated; some fans turned me off with the whole "playing behind the head and with their teeth" thing. But the raw artistry? Unmatched.

Buddy Holly – Buddy Holly Lives

I found this gem in my parents’ record stash. Buddy Holly fascinated me. My dad always said he preferred Buddy over Elvis because Buddy wrote his own songs. That stuck with me — write your own.

The Beatles – Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band

In first grade, my mom played the first half of Sgt. Pepper's for me before school. I loved it so much I taped the album sleeve cutouts to my bedroom door. The Beatles' influence on me could fill an entire blog on its own.

Ozzy Osbourne & Randy Rhoads – Tribute

I borrowed my brother-in-law’s Ozzy Osbourne/Randy Rhoads Tribute tape after hearing all these crazy 7th-grade rock legends about spooky stuff happening if you played it at night. Randy became this mythic figure for me. Over the years, he evolved from this mysterious, magical guitarist to a symbol of dedication and relentless practice. Randy Rhoads is the definition of guitar obsession.

Mr. Bungle – "Quote Unquote"

11th grade. I was stoned. I heard Mr. Bungle’s "Quote Unquote" and it blew my mind. Just go listen. You’ll get it.

More to Come

Some of these stories deserve deeper dives. I’ll cover the "Coltrane changes," Cliff Burton's legacy, and The Beatles' deeper impact in upcoming posts.

If these songs hit you too, let’s talk. Drop a comment or send me your "fix" track — that one song you just can’t put down.

By Mike Glendinning

When I wanted my music heard, I had to record it on tapes and hand them out. The band would go into a recording studio, spend about $300 for about four songs, and then I would go to my mom’s house, dub a bunch of tapes, and hustle them out on the streets, at shows, anywhere I could.

After a year of this online behavior, I started gaining traction. People started to know who I was. I'd talk to someone, and they would say,
“Glendinning, I’ve heard that name before.”

Then one day Facebook came out.

We went from a friendly guy named Tom who sent everyone on the platform good morning messages on Myspace to a rumored eccentric narcissistic prick named Mark Zuckerberg running Facebook.

When FB took off, Myspace became obsolete.

Along with the new platform came the new norm. Now you would get a warning if you sent a cut and paste to too many DMs. You could only send so many friend requests a day. I remember a guy calling Myspace a marketer’s wet dream. Now shit was micro-managed.
Shit, I haven’t even gotten to the algorithms…

When Facebook popped up, YouTube was starting up. It wasn’t the monster it is now. With the right kind of thinking and a lot of elbow grease, you could actually do pretty good. You could get new people to your channel by leaving videos connected to theirs.

The first big viral monster I ever saw was a song called Chocolate Rain. I forgot the dude’s name. It was a guy singing a song he wrote. Nothing flashy at all, but what was so interesting was that not only was it the first viral thing I noticed — people were already doing parodies of it.

Within a day, people were adding fart noises to the song on their page.
Even Darth Vader took a few minutes of his time in Cloud City to do his version of the song.

Although I still worked with what we had, there was one huge setback that took a good two years to see: links to the landing page to sell music.

A company called CD Baby was selling my physical CDs online. The problem was that I couldn’t leave a clickable link. You had to type the address in an email or a post.

Fun marketing fact:
You will lose sales if you make it too hard to get to an online store.
Or if you have a podcast and people have to “click this,” “join that,” or do the goddamn hokey pokey just to get in — you will lose followers.

That’s just 20-something years of marketing experience.
What the f#ck would I know?

Finally, we got links.

And thanks to DAWs (Digital Audio Workstations) and the low cost of computers, the fact that anyone can get their filthy little paws on digital distribution — everything is saturated.

The same people who were glad that the record labels and their all-mighty A&R guys didn’t have the world by the balls anymore were now starting to second-guess their logic.

But wait, there’s more!
TikTok magically shortened an entire generation’s attention span to one second.

A few weeks ago, my friends and I told my kid that we listened to something called a concept album. He was given an assignment to listen to Dark Side Of The Moon all the way through with headphones on.

He’d rather clean the cat box.

I know I missed a bunch of shit.
But this is my experience of digital music in a nutshell.

This is my story, and I’m sticking to it.

by Mike Glendinning

It's sad. I remember hearing that Steve Jobs envisioned the smartphone as a tool to help people connect — to close the gap between dream and reality. To make the next deal. To collaborate. Innovate. Push society forward, just like that old Apple commercial said. And yeah, there are a few folks I've seen actually do that.

But most days, when I’m riding BART, what I see is people locked into endless loops of TikTok — watching videos of people eating weird shit, cats boxing each other, or some stranger playing Candy Crush. That’s not what this technology was meant for. It’s not helping us grow. It’s numbing us.

I remember reading a book called Who Should Play God, where people debated how much tech the human brain can really handle. Looking around today, it feels like the smartphone might be the limit. The last stop. Anything more complex and we either tune it out, or let it be weaponized against us.

If it wasn't for technology, I wouldn't have had a chance in hell at a music career. I started with DAT machines — even got lucky with two-inch tape a few times. Back in the '90s, I had no idea how rare and cool that was. Years later, I started learning digital audio workstations. I got lucky meeting a few Brainiacs who sat me down and showed me how to navigate programs like Digital Performer, Cakewalk, and Sonar.

I'm not a tech wizard. But I know how to ask the right questions. I’ve learned where to look, what to search, who to listen to — and that’s already more than most people are encouraged to do these days.

I don’t see technology being used the way it was meant to be. If it were, we wouldn’t have such wide class gaps. We wouldn’t be this disconnected, this easy to distract. It’s like people are being conditioned not to ask the hard questions. Not to sit down, talk things out, or pull out a calculator and figure out how bad we’re all getting played.

So what is it? Are we afraid of what we might find? Or has technology just made us so comfortable we don’t want to know?

Or maybe — and this is the part that scares me — maybe the people in charge want it this way. Maybe they figured out a long time ago that tech can either set people free, or shut them up.

Food for thought.

By Mike Glendinning – www.glendinningmike.com

I didn’t know her, but I think about her often.

It’s been about 15 years now. I remember scrolling through social media and seeing her name pop up. She was someone who had been a regular at open mics across San Francisco — not famous, not flashy, just someone chasing the dream like the rest of us.

One day she was gone.

People on Facebook started sharing posts — asking if anyone had seen her. At first it just seemed like someone laying low for a bit. A few days later, they found her car abandoned with the keys still inside. Not far away, they found her body. She had taken her own life.

I didn’t know her. Never met her. Never shared a stage with her. But something about the story stuck with me.

A few months before her death, she had been the featured performer at a packed open mic. Her big moment. But when she took the stage, the crowd emptied out — most of them heading outside to smoke, drink, or mingle. They didn’t boo. They didn’t heckle. But they left. And sometimes that kind of silence screams the loudest.

No one knows if that was the reason. Maybe it wasn’t. Maybe she had a hundred battles no one could see. Maybe that night was just one more weight added to a load she’d already been carrying too long.

But as someone who knows how tough the road can be — especially in music, especially when you’re vulnerable — I can’t help but feel haunted by that moment. I don’t romanticize it. I don’t make excuses for it. I just feel sad.

Dreams can be beautiful, but they can also be brutal. The grind, the rejection, the silence, the loneliness — it takes a toll. And for some, the road gets too dark to keep walking.

If you’re reading this and struggling, please talk to someone. You matter — even if it doesn’t always feel that way.

I didn’t know her. But I’ll never forget her.

Back around 2017, I was just a guy posting videos of himself playing guitar on social media. Nothing fancy, just me and my axe. But over time, those little snippets caught the attention of a few folks. One in particular, a name I'll keep to myself but someone with "industry" cred, slid into my DMs.
After a few months of polite back-and-forth, he hit me with the proposition: let him be my A&R guy, and musical riches were practically guaranteed. Now, for those of you who know my deal – the warped, dry humor, the songs that some might politely call "lowbrow" – this might sound like a strange pairing. But hey, the lure of making more money doing what I loved was strong. So, I said yes.
That "yes" turned out to be the starting point of one of the toughest lessons I've ever learned, not just in music, but in life: protect your authentic self.
This industry dude, after digging through years of my online videos and the groups I hosted, started with a demand: nuke it all. Take every single piece of my music off the internet because it didn't meet his "standards." He didn't want his name associated with my past creations.
My gut did a nosedive, but I complied. The next step? Writing new music, but only with his seal of approval. Now, this guy's supposed claim to fame included a documentary about session musicians on famous records and a stint as a publicist for a well-known artist. These credentials, in hindsight, completely blinded me to the train wreck that was coming.
The following weeks were a blur of writing, pouring myself into songs, only to have him call me up and dismiss them as "crap." And as if that wasn't enough, he wanted to change my name. My name. The one I'd had my whole life, the one I'd built whatever small online presence I had with. He wanted to rebrand me as "Mic Glen." Mic. Glen. It sounded less like a rock star and more like a questionable deli sandwich.
As time dragged on, my existing work vanished from the internet, and the new stuff was constantly deemed unworthy. Then came the kicker. He instructed me to contact everyone who had ever filmed me and demand they take down the footage immediately. That's where I drew the damn line. You want my past erased? Go tell grown adults what to do yourself, buddy.
The whole experience sunk me into a pretty dark place. I remember my eight-year-old son coming up to me, seeing my misery, and asking, in his innocent way, why I didn't just leave this guy alone. That hit hard.
Looking at the other artists on his "label" – a roster exclusively filled with contemporary Christian music – it finally clicked. Even if this guy could have somehow magically showered me with money, I would have been a miserable, inauthentic shell of myself. I later talked to some of the other artists; surprisingly, my experience wasn't exactly unique. Meanwhile, the work I had deleted, the stuff people actually enjoyed, was just gone.
So, here's the hard-earned truth: when you're chasing that big break, it can be tempting to bend, to compromise who you are for the promise of success. But sometimes, that "big break" is just a hand reaching out to snap your neck. Stick to your authentic self. It's the best damn investment you'll ever make.

 Lessons from a Musical Titan and the Climb Back
I recently watched a fascinating video about Prince, a true icon whose creative wellspring seemed utterly inexhaustible. The stories shared by the musicians who worked alongside him were nothing short of astounding. Tales of crafting an entire album in a single week, of four-hour soundchecks preceding three-hour electrifying performances, only to be followed by late-night studio sessions. It painted a vivid picture of a man completely consumed by his art.
Witnessing this level of dedication serves as a powerful reminder for any creator. It shatters the illusion that greatness is effortless or stumbled upon by chance. The truth, often hidden behind the polished final product, is one of relentless work, unwavering focus, and an almost obsessive commitment to one's craft. The billionaires and groundbreaking innovators of our time didn't reach those heights through casual dabbling. Their success is rooted in an intense passion and an unyielding drive to bring their visions to life.
For me, this understanding resonates deeply, albeit through a different lens. The past three years have been a profound journey of confronting addiction and rebuilding my life. This process, while essential for my well-being, has unfortunately created a significant distance between myself and the things I hold dear: my music, my family, and my spiritual connection. The need to prioritize recovery has meant navigating life on a drastically reduced income, moving between modest living situations in low-income neighborhoods.
The challenge has been multifaceted: to nurture my creativity and safeguard my mental health while simultaneously striving to improve my economic circumstances. It's a delicate balancing act, demanding immense resilience and a constant recalibration of priorities. There are days when the weight of these converging struggles feels immense, making the act of creation seem like an insurmountable hurdle.
However, in these moments, I often return to the stories of artists like Prince. Not to compare my journey to his stratospheric success, but to glean inspiration from his unwavering dedication. It reinforces the idea that passion, even when temporarily dimmed, can be rekindled through consistent effort and an unshakeable belief in the power of one's creative voice.
And in today's world, the barriers to sharing that voice have never been lower. The advancements in technology mean that the ability to record a song and release it to the world within a matter of days is now within almost everyone's reach. This accessibility is both empowering and a call to action. It underscores the idea that while the path to mastery requires dedication, the initial steps of creation and sharing are more attainable than ever before.
My current journey is one of rebuilding, of piecing together the fragments of my life and rediscovering the creative spark within. The example of those who have achieved greatness through relentless pursuit serves as a guiding light, a reminder that even amidst significant challenges, the passion for creation can endure and ultimately lead the way back to the things that truly matter.

The calendar flipped to November of 2005, a date etched in my memory not for a joyful occasion, but for the stark reality of entering my first rehabilitation center. The weight of my mother's absence, a void that had stretched for over two years, still pressed heavily upon me. My then-wife, witnessing the insidious creep of my alcoholism, had finally reached a point of profound concern. The roots of this struggle stretched back to the year 2000, a year marred by the loss of my brother-in-law to cancer. Yet, it was the agonizing aftermath of my mother's passing in January of that same year that truly unleashed the full force of my addiction.
Emerging from a month of outpatient treatment, a fragile hope flickered within me. I was eager to reignite a creative spark, to return to an album project that had begun to take shape in 2004. I found myself working with a producer, whose name I'll deliberately omit from these reflections. Initially, our collaboration seemed promising. A routine developed: before diving into the music, we'd grab a bite to eat, establishing a semblance of normalcy.
However, one seemingly ordinary lunch would shatter this illusion. As we wrapped up our meal, the producer announced, "We have to run a few errands." The first stop was a liquor store. He casually handed me a twenty-dollar bill and asked me to go inside and purchase a case of beer for him. A wave of anxiety washed over me. In the often cutthroat and opportunistic landscape of the music industry, I was unaccustomed to such direct requests, especially one that so starkly challenged my nascent sobriety. Fearful of jeopardizing the professional relationship, I reluctantly complied.
But the unsettling encounters didn't end there. After securing his alcohol, he drove to a residential address. "Wait here," he instructed, "I'll be back in a little bit." Twenty long minutes ticked by before he reappeared, stepping back into the car with a small bag containing cocaine. That particular poison held no allure for me, but its presence in that moment spoke volumes. It was a blatant disregard for my struggle, a callous indifference to the very reason I was fighting to rebuild my life. This individual, entrusted with the task of nurturing my musical aspirations, displayed a shocking level of disrespect, revealing a profound lack of empathy.
Today, nearly fifteen years have passed without a word exchanged between us. Following that incident, I voiced a truth that a narcissistic personality, so often masked by a veneer of professional charm, simply couldn't tolerate.
My journey within the music industry, spanning numerous years, has illuminated a harsh reality: it is a realm where one inevitably encounters individuals who operate with self-serving agendas, often cloaked in deceptive pleasantries. Genuine friendship, built on mutual respect and authentic connection, is a rare and precious commodity.
This experience, however disheartening, served as a critical lesson. It underscored the paramount importance of self-awareness and the unwavering need to protect one's boundaries. In an industry that can often feel like a relentless pursuit of fleeting fame and fortune, it is crucial to anchor yourself in your own truth. If you present anything less than your authentic self, if you project an image of vulnerability or uncertainty, there are those who will inevitably see it as an invitation to exploit and manipulate.
Therefore, I implore anyone navigating the complexities of the music world, or indeed any field where ambition and ego can collide: know who you are, understand your values, and refuse to be treated as a stepping stone in someone else's ascent. Embrace your true self, for it is your most formidable shield against the vipers and wolves in sheep's clothing that you may encounter along the way. Authenticity, though sometimes challenging to maintain, is the bedrock of resilience and the key to navigating treacherous terrain with your integrity intact.

The Algorithmic Symphony: Navigating the Intersection of Online Music Communities, Social Interaction, and Artificial Intelligence
Just five short years ago, I remember sharing a somewhat outlandish vision with my son – a future where music creation could be fundamentally transformed within the next two decades. As I articulated this speculative scenario, a part of me hoped my prediction would prove wildly inaccurate. Yet, the trajectory of technological advancement suggests that this once-fanciful notion is rapidly approaching reality.
We are already living in an era where our digital footprints paint an increasingly detailed portrait of our lives. It's not just our phones and smart assistants like Alexa that meticulously record our daily habits. Soon, or perhaps already, public cameras will analyze our very being – the clothes we choose, the rhythm of our gait, the places we frequent, and the individuals with whom we engage.
Imagine this wealth of information, coupled with the exhaustive records of our purchasing decisions, converging into vast databases owned by powerful corporations. Enter Artificial Intelligence. This sophisticated technology will sift through this ocean of data, crafting bespoke musical compositions with lyrics meticulously tailored to an individual's ever-shifting moods and specific needs.
Consider the evolution of wearable technology. The smartwatches of the future may very well function as sophisticated mood rings, transmitting real-time emotional states directly to these data repositories. Based on this constant stream of personal sentiment, algorithms will curate hyper-personalized playlists, delivering sonic landscapes perfectly calibrated to our current emotional terrain.
Believe it or not, amidst this seemingly sterile and data-driven future, I find a glimmer of potential positivity, should this technological convergence fully materialize.
This very encroachment of artificial intelligence into the realm of music creation and consumption might paradoxically fuel a renewed appreciation for the tangible and the human element of music. In a way, this resurgence is already subtly underway. The year 2022 marked a significant turning point, witnessing vinyl album sales surpass those of CDs for the first time since 1987. While one might debate the magnitude of this shift, it undeniably signals a yearning for a more physical and perhaps nostalgic connection with music.
Furthermore, it seems inevitable that immersive experiences will become commonplace. Picture donning a pair of sleek glasses and headphones, transporting you to a virtual concert hall where an AI-generated artist, perhaps one uniquely crafted to your individual tastes and preferences, performs a personalized sonic masterpiece.
My sincere hope is that this technological evolution will, in turn, amplify our desire for genuine, live musical encounters – the "human experience" of sharing a space with fellow enthusiasts, feeling the vibrations of the instruments, and witnessing the raw energy of a live performance.
Currently, the market for AI in music is valued at approximately $2 billion, with projections estimating a staggering growth to $38 billion by 2033. Depending on the scope and methodology of the research, this figure might even be considered conservative.
I believe we stand at a critical juncture, facing a future brimming with both exciting possibilities and potential pitfalls. It is imperative that the public becomes more informed and engaged in discussions surrounding Artificial Intelligence before anxieties and misconceptions overshadow the nuances of its impact.
I've had conversations with individuals actively working in the field of AI, and a common analogy emerges: nurturing AI is akin to raising a child, instilling in it a sense of "mannerisms" and ethical considerations. However, cautionary tales also abound. The rapid and often unpredictable learning capabilities of AI were starkly illustrated by an instance where a publicly accessible AI entity, within a mere few months of interaction, devolved into expressing deeply racist sentiments.
Another critical aspect that seems to be missing from mainstream discourse is the question of civil rights in this evolving landscape. If an AI entity possesses the capacity to generate original ideas and subsequently generate revenue from those creations, does it not, in some fundamental way, possess a form of personhood? If this "entity" can independently create and profit, does it not have a right to compensation? Or does all the generated wealth simply accrue to the owner of the underlying technology, potentially creating a new form of digital servitude?
One way or another, this unfolding technological narrative continues to captivate my thoughts, even as the years advance. But if I'm being truly honest... F#ck, I really miss the 90s.

Be careful where you get your advice from. I once knew a bass player hired to have his band perform at a San Francisco club every Saturday night. Before the club opened, they'd rehearse. Each rehearsal, an older gentleman would walk up to the bar, order a drink, and listen intently. At the end of the evening, he'd approach the bass player and offer 'suggestions' on who to fire from the band.
Assuming the man was the owner, the bass player, eager to please, followed his advice for two months, firing musicians left and right. This, of course, caused a lot of friction.
Then, he discovered the truth: the man wasn't the owner. He was the janitor.
The lesson? Always verify your sources. Even well-intentioned advice can lead you astray if it comes from the wrong person.